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Completed Retake campaign: Turn it on/Turn it off for Bioware

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  1. Shinobu

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    Turn it on/Turn it off for Bioware -- THANK YOU FOR MAKING YOUR VOICES HEARD!

    POST YOUR AFTER ACTION REPORTS IN THIS THREAD or at the BSN.

    After-Action Reports, BSN Spoilers Thread:
    http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11728273

    After-Action Reports, BSN nonspoilers thread for those playing the demo:
    http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/11735358

    BSN forum link: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11600342
    StElmo made a beautiful video that is available here:

    Media coverage!
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/04/25/mass-effect-3-fans-stage-onoff-campaign/2/
    http://dailygamingnetwork.com/2012/04/25/mass-effect-fans-turn-onturn-bioware-weekend/

    Facts:
    - Whether you are hopeful or cynical about the new Ending DLC, one thing is clear: it's Bioware's last, best chance to win back the fanbase.

    - It is in everyone's interest that the DLC be a fitting conclusion to this amazing series.

    - Bioware is currently in the process of finalizing plans for the DLC, including allocating resources for its creation.

    - Because many people have not been playing the SP campaign, EA may have the mistaken impression that SP is a "lost cause" and so may not fund the Ending DLC properly -- especially since they are committed to giving it to us for free.

    - EA/Bioware can monitor the number of people playing Mass Effect 3 through Origin, and we can use this to give them relevant data about our future buying habits.

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    We propose giving EA and Bioware immediate feedback on the importance of the Ending DLC, so they can allocate sufficient resources to make a quality product.

    To that end, we propose the following campaign:

    We will turn ON our single player game during a pre-defined period to show EA/Bioware the number of passionate fans who love the series and who will continue to buy their products IF the DLC provides a satisfactory ending.

    We will then turn OFF our game and refuse to play for a pre-defined time period to give EA/Bioware a clear idea of the potential loss of custom and support they will suffer if the DLC is NOT satisfying.

    How to take part:

    - Turn ON the Mass Effect 3 single player campaign at some point during Saturday, April 28th (Pacific Time/GMT -7). It does not need to be on for the entire 24 hour period.

    - Tweet Bioware/EA (#turnMEon, or #turnME3on, or #turnonME) to let them know you are playing in order to show them the number of fans who support them. Post an after action report on the BSN.

    - Turn OFF Mass Effect 3 and do not play either single or multiplayer for the entirety of Sunday, April 29th (Pacific Time/GMT -7). The game must be shut off for the entire 24 hour period. Do not log in to the BSN forum during this time. If you own an iPhone or iPad, turn off the datapad app using the orange Origin circle in the upper right hand corner.

    - Tweet Bioware/EA again (#turnMEoff or #turnME3off or #turnoffME) to let them know you are demonstrating their potential loss of customers. This would be a good time to let them know if you are happy with clarification or want new endings.

    That's all! The greater the difference between the two days, the more incentive EA will have to fund the DLC properly. Bioware is more than capable of giving us an amazing conclusion to this saga if they have the financial support to do it right.

    Join the Facebook event at:
    https://www.facebook.com/events/410761315601880

    Like the Facebook campaign at Reddit:
    http://www.reddit.com/tb/sn6sf


    FAQs:

    - Who are you and what is your motivation?

    We are fans of the Mass Effect franchise who were disappointed by the way the ending of Shepard's story was handled. We want to maximize the chances that fans will be satisfied by the Ending DLC. While many of us are Retake/HTL members, we do not claim to speak for the majority of either group.

    - Retake has already won. What is the point of this?

    While the production of a free Ending DLC is a step in the right direction, the announcement Bioware made was vague and could apply equally well to either a multi-hour playable extravaganza or a handful of epilogue slides stating things like: "ReaperGarrus lived for many happy days on Gilligan's planet before he finished consuming Tali's dead body and died of starvation." Our goal is to help Bioware get the funding it needs to produce the former.

    - Why didn't you specify what a "satisfactory ending" is?

    The fanbase is diverse and not everyone wants the same thing. (However, we suspect very few people will be moved to boycott Bioware if MORE CHOICES are provided.) Also, we trust that the company which made the Tuchanka missions is more than capable of pleasing the majority of fans if they internally peer-review their work. It is not our intent to demand specific plot points or outcomes. Bioware has over 600 pages of fan feedback and multiple polls to point them in the right direction.

    - Why should I take part in Turn it On/Turn it Off?

    If EA is presented with clear evidence that the quality of the Ending DLC will mean the difference between regaining supportive fans and driving away their customers, we believe they will finance a better product. It is imperative for people who can't currently bring themselves to replay the SP campaign to stand up and be counted instead of being written off as a "lost cause." Also, it's important that the "wait and see" crowd make their voices heard now while we still have time to effect positive change. Finally, it's free and easy to do.

    - Why are you trying to destroy Bioware?

    We're not. We want them to make an Ending DLC that is worthy of the rest of the game and then reap the rewards of their success. To that end, many of us will encourage our friends who haven't played Mass Effect 3 to download the demo (http://masseffect.com/about/demo/) during Phase 1. We are more than willing to bring new customers to the franchise if the ending is fixed properly.

    -I uninstalled my game, now what?

    Download the Mass Effect 3 demo (http://masseffect.com/about/demo/) during Phase 1 and play it. Uninstall it before Phase 2.

    - The "Patch" killed my XBox! How can I participate?

    You should still be able to download the Mass Effect 3 demo (http://masseffect.com/about/demo/) during Phase 1 and play it. If that doesn't work, go ahead and Tweet during the times you would have turned on/off and tell them you are unable to play.

    - Do I need an internet connection in order to participate?

    Yes. Remember to set "Upload gameplay feedback" to "ON" in the "online options." If EA can't see you playing, your voice is not being heard. This will give them info on your favorite parts of the game.

    -Can't I just set "upload gameplay feedback" to "OFF" and continue to play during the OFF period?

    No. Even though you will not be giving EA specific information on what missions you are doing, you will still be counted as playing ME3. You must log out of Origin and turn your game off for the entire OFF period.

    -I haven't been able to play the SP game since I finished it. What should I do?

    Try replaying your favorite parts of the game. That will give the developers more data on what fans liked. If you can't stand that, just start the game from the beginning and walk away for a while. Remember to turn it off before Phase 2.

    - Can I play multiplayer instead?

    By all means, play multiplayer IN ADDITION to the single player game, but the purpose of this initiative is to prove that fans will return to the single player campaign if the ending is satisfactory.

    - Do I have to turn my game on at a specific time? Does it have to be on for 24 hours?

    No, just turn it on at any time during Phase 1 for as long as you like. You DO need to turn it off before Phase 2 starts and keep it off for the full 24 hour period or longer.

    - I don't live in the Pacific Time Zone. When should I turn my computer ON/OFF?

    See our list of dates/times: (THANK YOU Aderyn_brea!)

    Turn On Times (Turn the game on some time during this 24 hour period)

    Midway (GMT -11) 8pm Friday April 27 – 8pm Saturday April 28
    Hawaii (GMT -10) 9pm, Friday, April 27-9pm Saturday April 28
    Alaska (GMT -9/DST -8) 11pm Friday, April 27-11pm Saturday April 28th
    Pacific (GMT -8/DST -7) 12am Saturday April 28th -12am Sunday April 29
    Mountain (GMT -7/DST -6) 1am Saturday April 28 - 1am Sunday April 29
    Central (GMT -6/DST-5) 2am Saturday April 28 – 2am Sunday April 29
    Eastern (GMT -5/DST -4) 3am Saturday April 28 – 3am Sunday April 29
    Nova Scotia (GMT -4/DST -3) 4am Saturday April 28 – 4am Sunday April 29
    Brazil (GMT -3) 4am Saturday April 28 – 4am Sunday April 29
    Greenland (GMT -2) 5am Saturday April 28 – 5am Sunday April 29
    Cape Verde Islands (GMT -1) 6am Saturday April 28 – 6am Sunday April 29
    Casablanca (GMT 0) 7am Saturday April 28 – 7am Sunday April 29
    UK/Portugal (GMT 0/DST +1) 8am Saturday April 28 – 8am Sunday April 29
    Nigeria (GMT +1) 8am Saturday April 28 – 8am Sunday April 29
    Western Europe (GMT +1/DST +2) 9am Saturday April 28 – 9am Sunday April 29
    Finland (GMT +2/DST +3) 10am Saturday April 28 – 10am Sunday April 29
    Madagascar (GMT +3) 10am Saturday April 28 – 10am Sunday April 29
    Moscow, Russia (GMT +4) 11am Saturday April 28 – 11am Sunday April 29
    Maldives (GMT +5) 12pm Saturday April 28 – 12pm Sunday April 29
    Bangladesh (GMT +6) 1pm Saturday April 28 – 1pm Sunday April 29
    Omsk, Russia (GMT +7) 2pm Saturday April 28 – 2pm Sunday April 29
    Singapore/Western Australia (GMT +8) 3pm Saturday April 28 – 3pm Sunday April 29
    Japan (GMT +9) 4pm Saturday April 28 – 4pm Sunday April 29
    Sydney (GMT +10) 5pm Saturday April 28 – 5pm Sunday April 29
    Solomon Islands (GMT +11) 6pm Saturday April 28 – 6pm Sunday April 29
    Fiji (GMT +12) 7pm Saturday April 28 – 7pm Sunday April 29
    Samoa (GMT +13) 8pm Saturday April 28 – 8pm Sunday April 29
    Kiribati (GMT +14) 9 pm Saturday April 28 – 9pm Sunday April 29

    Turn Off Times (Make sure your game is OFF for at least this entire period)

    Midway (GMT -11) 8pm Saturday April 28- 8pm Sunday April 29
    Hawaii (GMT -10) 9pm Saturday April 28 – 9pm Sunday April 29
    Alaska (GMT -9/DST -8) 11pm Saturday April 28 – 11pm Sunday April 29
    Pacific (GMT -8/DST-7) 12am Sunday April 29 – 12am Monday April 30
    Mountain (GMT -7/DST -6) 1am Sunday April 29 – 1am Monday April 30
    Central (GMT -6/DST -5) 2am Sunday April 29 – 2am Monday April 30
    Eastern (GMT -5/DST -4) 3am Sunday April 29 – 3am Monday April 30
    Nova Scotia (GMT -4/DST -3) 4am Sunday April 29 – 4am Monday April 30
    Brazil (GMT -3) 4am Sunday April 29 – 4am Monday April 30
    Greenland (GMT -2) 5am Sunday April 29 – 5am Monday April 30
    Cape Verde Islands (GMT -1) 6am Sunday April 29 – 6am Monday April 30
    Casablanca (GMT 0) 7am Sunday April 29 – 7am Monday April 30
    UK/Portugal (GMT 0/DST +1) 8am Sunday April 29 – 8am Monday April 30
    Nigeria (GMT +1) 8am Sunday April 29 – 8am Monday April 30
    Western Europe (GMT +1/DST +2) 9am Sunday April 29 – 9am Monday April 30
    Finland (GMT +2/DST +3) 10am Sunday April 29 – 10am Monday April 30
    Madagascar (GMT +3) 10am Sunday April 29 – 10am Monday April 30
    Moscow, Russia (GMT +4) 11am Sunday April 29 – 11am Monday April 30
    Maldives (GMT +5) 12pm Sunday April 29 – 12pm Monday April 30
    Bangladesh (GMT +6) 1pm Sunday April 29 – 1pm Monday April 30
    Omsk, Russia (GMT +7) 2pm Sunday April 29 – 2pm Monday April 30
    Singapore/Western Australia (GMT +8) 3pm Sunday April 29 – 3pm Monday April 30
    Japan (GMT +9) 4pm Sunday April 29 – 4pm Monday April 30
    Sydney (GMT +10) 5pm Sunday April 19 – 5pm Monday April 30
    Solomon Islands (GMT +11) 6pm Sunday April 29 – 6pm Monday April 30
    Fiji (GMT +12) 7pm Sunday April 29 – 7pm Monday April 30
    Samoa (GMT +13) 8pm Sunday April 29 – 8pm Monday April 30
    Kiribati (GMT +14) 9pm Sunday April 29 – 9pm Monday April 30

    -I hate Twitter/don't have a Twitter account. Does that matter?

    No, you don't have to use Twitter. It's just another way to remind Bioware that the campaign is going on. Other ways you can register your support include going to the Facebook event site (https://www.facebook.com/events/410761315601880) and posting your after action reports at the BSN on Saturday. (Remember to avoid the BSN forums on Sunday.)

    - I love the original endings and don't support this campaign at all.

    We're glad you enjoyed the endings. You may be interested to know that we recommend participants also avoid the BSN forums during Phase 2. It may be the only day you ever get to post "I love the endings!" threads without being asked to explain why. ^_^ By all means, encourage all the anti-ending members to join us! We make a statement, and you get some peace and quiet: it's a Win-Win situation.

    - I hate the original endings and want to support this campaign!

    Welcome aboard! You can help by spreading the word about this campaign, recruiting your friends to play during Phase 1 and by doing something fun and non-ME-related during Phase 2. If you know a foreign language, translate and post this initiative to foreign gaming sites. Print this out and leave it at your local gaming store. Spread the word here at HoldTheLine, the BSN forums, RetakeME3, deviantart, fanfic.net, Youtube, your personal blog, and any gaming sites you can think of. Vote us up at Reddit: http://redd.it/sn6sf Remember, it's not too late to save THIS Cycle!

    CONTACT the MEDIA:

    news@gamasutra.com
    US News Editor James Brightman (online submission) http://www.gamesindustry.biz/contact?subject=news
    EU News Editor Matt Martin (online submission) http://www.gamesindustry.biz/contact?subject=news
    tips@gizmodo.com
    tips@kotaku.com
    gsincoming@cbsinteractive.com
    news@bluesnews.com
    Joystiq Tip Submission (online) http://www.joystiq.com/contact/tips/
    hx@ggmania.com
    Shack News (online) http://www.shacknews.com/contact
    tips@venturebeat.com
    tips@gizmodo.com
    gsincoming@cbsinteractive.com

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    Dear, Sir/Madam,

    On Saturday, April 28th & 29th, Mass Effect 3 players from all over the world who aren't satisfied with the ending will come together to demonstrate their passion for the game and the hope that their concerns are dealt with properly by BioWare and EA.

    From the description of the Facebookgroup "Turn on/off BioWare":

    "We propose giving EA and Bioware immediate feedback on the importance of the Ending DLC, so they can allocate sufficient resources to make a quality product.

    To that end, we propose the following campaign:

    We will turn ON our single player game on April 28th, during a pre-defined period to show EA/Bioware the number of passionate fans who love the series and who will continue to buy their products IF the DLC provides a satisfactory ending.

    We will then turn OFF our game on April 29th, and refuse to play for a pre-defined time period to give EA/Bioware a clear idea of the potential loss of custom and support they will suffer if the DLC is NOT satisfying."

    Feel free to inform yourself at:

    Facebook:
    http://www.facebook.com/events/410761315601880/419708174707194/?notif_t=like

    BSN Forums:
    http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11600342/20

    HTL (Hold The Line):
    http://www.holdtheline.com/threads/retake-campaign-turn-it-on-turn-it-off-for-bioware.877/

    - How will we know if it worked?

    Frankly, it is unlikely Bioware will acknowledge this event or make our numbers public even if we have a high turnout. That is why it is important for you to also make our numbers known at the Facebook event site (https://www.facebook.com/events/410761315601880/?notif_t=plan_user_joined) and at the BSN forum. Make sure to post an after action report to the BSN forum to show our numbers on Day 1 and scrupulously avoid the forums on Day 2. The final proof will be when the Ending DLC comes out, but hopeful signs to watch for in the meantime include hearing in the next few weeks that the Ending DLC is delayed, or confirmation that voice actors have been contacted to work on the DLC.

    Bullet points for Posters: (Feel free to translate into as many languages as possible and spread the news worldwide)

    Turn it on/Turn it off for Bioware
    Love Mass Effect but hate the ending to ME3? Let Bioware know how you feel!

    1) Turn ON your single player game some time during Saturday, April 28th (beginning at midnight Pacific Time/GMT -7).
    This tells Bioware you're willing to buy their future products if the Ending DLC is satisfying.
    Tweet bioware (#turnMEon) to let then know what you're doing and post an after action report on the BSN forum.

    2) Turn OFF your game (including MP) for the entirety of Sunday, April 29th (beginning before midnight Pacific Time/GMT -7).
    This tells Bioware you're willing to walk away from them if the Ending DLC is not satisfying.
    Tweet Bioware (#turnMEoff) to let then know you're taking part. During the OFF period do not log in to the BSN forums.

    The larger the difference between the two days, the more likely Mass Effect will get the ending it deserves.
    Find out more (including a world schedule) at the following link: http://holdtheline.com

    Canned Youtube comment spam:

    If you love Mass Effect but hate the ending, please join the Turn it On/Turn it Off for Bioware campaign April 28th and 29th! We're using Origin to show Bioware their choice of futures (returning fans vs. angry boycotters) depending on the quality of the Ending DLC. It's easy, free, and nonconfrontational.

    Find out more, including a world schedule, at holdtheline(dot)com or google "turn on/turn off Bioware" to find the BSN thread, Facebook event and RetakeME3 video.

    Spread the word!

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    Original (long-winded) post:

    Hi, I had an idea for a new (free) campaign and wanted to see if you guys thought it was a good idea.

    I have been following the developments after the announcement of the free ending DLC, and I feel that this fight is far from over but the troops are wavering somewhat. Some people appear satisfied with "clarification" while others are taking a "wait and see" approach. My belief is that the announcement was actually EA "testing the waters" to see if the fans could be easily pacified or broken up into separate factions. Whether the fans realize it or not, this is now a negotiation, and the first rule of negotiation is to never accept the first offer. I think a little more application of pressure is necessary in order to push Bioware into not just clarifying the poor endings, but possibly creating new ones.

    To that end, I'd like to propose a new campaign for Retake, that will require some coordination, but in the end can only benefit the cause. I call it "Turn it on/turn it off for Bioware."

    Right now, EA can see through Origin that many people are not playing SP. Some of us, like me, can't face playing SP but have taken refuge in MP. I think this gives them a mistaken impression that SP is a lost cause and more time/investment should be made into MP, rather than the into the ending DLC. Actually, many people would return to SP and buy paid SP DLC if the endings were any good. So, I propose that Retake give EA/Bioware the data they need to make an informed decision on how many resources to put into the SP ending DLC.

    The campaign consists of two parts:

    Part 1: Everyone who loves Mass Effect turns it on at some point during a predefined 24 hour period. By turning on their game, they are stating "I love Mass Effect and will happily buy more Mass Effect related products IF (and only if) I am satisfied with the ending DLC." This is a way for those who haven't been able to play SP any more to stand up and be counted instead of being written off as a lost cause. People should open the SP game and replay whatever their favorite parts of the game are (to give the devs more specific feedback about what is liked) or just turn it on to the intro/character creator if they can't stomach playing it at all. Those who have returned their game can download the demo and turn it on. To sweeten the deal, we should actually convince our friends who haven't played the game (on our advice) to download the demo and play it. This gives Bioware an idea of how many people they stand to regain and even ADD if the ending is good. "See, not only will all of US come back and buy stuff, but we'll also convince our friends to buy as well!"

    Part 2: Everyone who is willing to walk away from the franchise and/or Bioware if the ending DLC is not satisfactory then turns off the game for a full 24 hours. No multiplayer, nothing. By turning off their game, they are stating "I will refuse to buy more Mass Effect related products (and possibly ANY Bioware products) if the ending DLC is not satisfactory." This is especially important for the "wait and see" crowd, because stating their intentions up front en masse will have a larger and more positive impact on the outcome of the ending DLC than walking away after the DLC comes out and isn't very good. This gives Bioware a clear picture of how many people will be abandoning them if they only pay lip service to the DLC (in order to boost their standing in the media without actually giving the fans what we want).

    Notice that I don't specify what "satisfactory" is. Retake is a diverse group of people and by being too specific we increase the likelihood of alienating some of the group. While some of us would be content with just closure/clarification of the existing endings, Bioware is well aware by now that many more of us would not. (Add link to BSN poll here.) Also, the converse is not true: people who will settle for closure aren't going to be pissed off if they're given new endings as well. Bioware has teams of talented professional writers who know how to craft a beautiful story. (Mordin's story/Tuchanka comes to mind.) It is not our place to tell them what to do when we know that any story they internally peer-review is going to be good.

    This should be thought of as a way to help Bioware. If they can show EA the differences between their two possible futures (returning fans vs. angry boycotters) they will have more power to get money invested into the DLC and do it right. Right now EA is working off of flawed data (people abandoning SP and possibly playing MP), it only helps everyone if we set them straight. And if we fail to get big numbers to show up we're no worse off than if we had done nothing. Also, people who agree with only one part of the campaign can participate only in that part.

    In terms of organization, people should contact members of the foreign sites (for example, those lovely French BSNers) as well as the gaming sites like IGN, Forbes, AngryJoe, etc. We should have a list of actual times around the world when people should be on or off (to avoid spillover from "on" time into "off" time). In terms of timing, I suggest 12 midnight PST (because most of ME3 has been sold in the US and Americans get easily confused if we do things based on GMT). I like PST instead of EST because there will be less likelihood of people keeping their games on when they should be turning them off. (Fewer people in NY will be playing at 3am than people in CA playing at 9pm.) I suggest we do this soon, to capitalize on the media attention of the other "gamer blackout" going on. "Gamers flex their (consumer) muscles" is a good tagline.

    When people say "you've already won, stop whining" we should say that the DLC announcement was vague as to what actually will be done, and point out that we're just giving EA information they can use to help guide them when deciding what to invest in the DLC. If they quote Patrick Weekes and say "see, he gets it, we're in good hands" we can say that we just want to make sure he has the resources to do what we know he does so well. Also, quotes from Patrick have a soothing effect on fans without actually obligating EA/Bioware to do anything, because he is not speaking for the company.

    That's it, let me know what you think. I'll keep holding the line.

    Shinobu
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  2. Kinoru07

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    Very well thought out. I would support this if we initiate it. However there will be some people who would not take kindly to this. So be prepared for any blowback that might occur.
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    I like the idea. It's thoroughly thought out, it's free, it's easy to do. I am always interested in the downside before beginning, though. Can only help us to foresee as much as possible.

    Kinoru07, who do you think won't take kindly to this, and what blowback is your concern?
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    Some people just don't like even the idea of anyone playing or even giving data to Bioware until this ending kerfuffle is done and over with. Some are trolls just trying to incite people. Just saying that somehow, somewhere, someone will get mad at this idea.
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    Haters gonna hate not matter what. But the reasoning here is sound. As long as the idea has enough support, let them hate on it. I realize that they are potential assets who are not helping at a time we need numbers, but I think it's worth spreading the word to see if we can make it work.
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    Easy, simple, effective. I like it.

    Do we think that nine days is going to be enough to coordinate?

    P.S. Welcome to HTL, Shinobu!
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    This is my concern. By the time it's noticed and debated by enough people, we may notice that we need more time to gather support.
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    Original post: Yeah, maybe the 20th is too soon. Is it possible for us to test the waters for a bit, then decide on a date? I will also be internetless for a week starting on April 14th, so that won't help.

    How does one reach a consensus here first? If we can agree to do this here, then we can take it to the BSN. I emailed the founders of this site, but haven't received a reply -- I'm sure they're swamped.

    One downside to the campaign is that there is nothing to "see". Bioware probably won't tell us how many people turn it on/off, so we'll have no way of knowing how it went or if it has an effect. I guess we could also ask participants to post on the BSN/avoid the BSN on the same days.

    Thanks for the welcome! ^_^
  9. Shinobu

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    I think one answer to them is that this is data that Bioware needs in order to make a satisfying ending possible. Origin is kinda evil, but we can make it work for us. Real-time data means that they can get the info they need in time to change their course. In effect, "we want to save THIS game/Cycle, not ME4!" Also, some of us, like me, are already playing the game (though I'm not buying anything). It makes me sad to think that by playing MP I'm dooming the SP game, so I'd like to set the record straight.

    By actively recruiting potential new consumers we also show that we DO love this franchise and aren't out to destroy the company. This can be a win-win situation.
  10. Tiberius

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    Actually, I found this thread through a link over on Retake Weekly Initiatives over on the HTL Frontline News area. So it is out there. Now, if you really believe in your idea, you own it. Shamelessly pimp it in your posts on other threads, put a link to it in your thread, etc. Push it out there actively.

    Edit: Allow me to demonstrate/help. Check my sig ;)
  11. Peregrinari

    Peregrinari Supreme Member

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    You could try a poll. Those are popular - then, as Tiberius said, pimp it everywhere.
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    If you want some sort of consensus from here, the best way is with a poll. Your post is already linked in the weekly initiatives post, which means you've already got some exposure. Make a poll, basically a yes/no whether people think this is a good idea. You're shooting for as close to 75/25 as you can.

    Also I'd recommend making the first post a little less wall-o'-text'y. I like your idea and I support it, see if you can refine it down and I'll gladly jump on board and help you promote it.
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    Another quick question, are they tracking through XBL and PSN as well?
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    ...Turinan avatar... *snicker* ...pole... *snicker*

    Oh, I'm sorry. Misread that. You said "POLL." Okay. Gotcha. War flashbacks, eh? Eh.
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    TIBERIUUUUUUUUUS!

    /angryfist
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    I'm not so good at the pimpage. Do you mean here or BSN, or everywhere? I don't want to use the Retake/HTL name unless people here are into the idea. Once people here are good with it, I'm happy to spam other sites, Youtube, etc.

    I'm a noob, so how do I make a poll?

    Thanks for your sig support, Tiberius! It makes me feel almost important! ^_^
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    You can start here, get a feel for things, and then move on to bigger fish. If you're not married to April 20th then you've got time. I have no idea how one makes a poll, however.
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    You have to make a new thread, unfortunately. Which means one of us needs to tell kihten to change the link in her weekly initiatives post.
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    Thank you for your support! I will take the pole out (Tiberius) and try to beat down the wall o' text. Right now I'm going to bed, though. Good night!
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    if you make a new poll, just link me up in PM or tag me or something.

    Also, i dont see how this could possibly hurt the movement so i'm all about just doing it and letting people know when they can participage IF they want to participate. I'm not sure what the purpose of the poll is in this particular case. IE: cupcake campaign - member ordered cupcakes & then just asked people to help pay for them. those that wanted to participate did, and those that didnt want to, didnt.

    I understand the need to poll things that could be controversial or inflammatory but since i see this as neither, i dont understand why we dont go for it. that's what we did before the nonsense last friday, and i think it worked fine. just my two cents.

    I think April 20th gives you time if you campaign like CRAZY. you'll also need a sort of simple outline for when to be turning on and off because i got a little lost in the details, but took away that this idea is really brilliant and easy to implement. Getting someone to blog or write an article about it would be a good way to get coverage as well. Also, we need to implement these plans sooner rather than later so that we have time for our actions to impact the way the DLC will be handled - if we wait too long it will be too late for making changes.

    that's just my wall of text, for what its worth.
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